Thomas Turner

Sunday’s Obituary – John Turner (1876-1926)

John Turner is my great grand uncle – he is the brother of my great grandmother Elizabeth Ann Musgrove (nee Turner). His parents are Thomas Turner (1848-1916) and Mary Jane Carradice (1854-1917) – my 2x great grandparents.

John was born in Kendal, Westmorland and his birth is registered in the March quarter of 1876. He was baptised on the 2 April 1876.

In the 1881 and 1891 census returns John is living with his parents and siblings in Settle, Yorkshire. In 1891 at the age of 14 his occupation is described as “hawker”.

John married Elizabeth Ann Gornall sometime in Q4 1900 in Clitheroe, Lancashire.

In the 1901 census John and Elizabeth are living at 50 Taylor Street, Clitheroe with his older sister Elizabeth Ann and her husband Joseph Musgrove (my great grandparents). John is working as a general labourer.

Ten years later Johns still working as a general labourer and in the 1911 census John and Elizabeth are living at 13 Grimshaw Street, Clitheroe together with five children:-

Mary Ellen – born 1901
Catherine – born 1902
Annie – born 1905
Maria – born 1906
James – born 1907

They also had two other children who died as babies – John Thomas in 1903 and Elizabeth in 1909.

John and Elizabeth went on to have four more children:-

Winifred – born 1912
Ivy – born 1913
George Henry – born 1914
Florence – born 1915

As far as I can tell Elizabeth Ann died sometime in early 1919 at the age of 37 – her death is registered in Q1 in Clitheroe. I don’t know what happened to all the children at that time – some were still very young. I can only guess that they were cared for by relatives or even entered the workhouse.

I found the following newspaper article in the Lancashire Evening Post of 18 January 1926 detailing the circumstances of John’s death. It’s sometimes difficult to know that you have the right person in newspaper articles, especially with a fairly common name as John Turner. However the report says that he was living at 2 Marlborough Street, Clitheroe. This was the address of his parents in the 1911 census – so I am confident that I have the right person.

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THE ROADSIDE DEATH AT WORSTON

The body found in the snow on the roadside at Worston on Saturday, has been identified as that of John Turner, cattle drover, aged about 50, who had been living as 2, Marlborough Street, Clitheroe. He left that address about seven o’clock on Saturday and was found at nine o’clock, it being thought that the severe cold had caused his collapse. The facts of the case were reported to the coroner, who considers an inquest unnecessary.

On this day … 27th August

1829 … John Snowden was born to parents Joseph Snowden and Mary Whitaker.  He is the 2nd cousin of the wife of my 2x great grand uncle.

1877 … Selina Dawson was born in Eastburn near Keighley, West Yorkshire to parents Martin Dawson and Margaret Spencer.  She is my 1st cousin 2x removed.

1878 … Thomas Turner was born to parents Thomas Turner and Mary Jane Carradice.  He is my great grand uncle.

1878 … William Turner was born to parents Thomas Turner and Mary Jane Carradice.  He also died on this day.  He is my great grand uncle.

Wedding Wednesday – Thomas Turner & Mary Jane Carradice

My 2x great grandparents married today 139 years ago.

Thomas Turner was born in Kendal, Westmorland about 1847 although I haven’t yet been able to find a definite record of his birth.

Mary Jane Carradice was born on 8th November 1854 also in Kendal.

They married on 29th June 1872 at Kendal Register Office.  The witnesses were Miles Barry Harker and Hannah Harker.

I had never come across the name Harker before in my family tree.  So while preparing this post I decided to see if I could find any connection between Miles and Hannah and Thomas and Mary Jane.

The only link I have been able to establish is that all four appear on the same page of the marriage register – which clearly suggests to me that they were married on the same day at Kendal Register Office.

Presumably Miles Barry Harker and Hannah Fisher tied the knot first given the witness names on Thomas and Mary Jane’s marriage certificate.  I wonder if Thomas and Mary Jane performed the role of witnesses for Miles and Hannah.  Maybe they were all friends or perhaps this was the first time they had even met.

The lack of family witnesses has me thinking that perhaps Thomas and Mary Jane married without their families consent – or am I reading too much into this.  I guess that I will never know.

Whatever the circumstances of their marriage they went on to have at least ten children:-

  • Elizabeth Ann – 31st May 1873 (my great grandmother)
  • John – c1877
  • Thomas and William – 27 August 1878 (William died the same day and Thomas ten days later)
  • Ellen – 10th November 1879
  • Mary Jane – 8th January 1882
  • Alexander – 27th November 1884
  • Isabella – 24th February 1887
  • James – c1892
  • Ivy – c1897

Over the years the family migrated south to Clitheroe in Lancashire.

Thomas died on 7th December 1916 and Mary Jane on 18th April 1917.

On this day … 29th June

1872 … Mary Jane Carradice and Thomas Turner married at Kendal Register Office in Westmorland.  They are my 2x great grandparents.

1897 … Mary Ellen Gawthrop (nee Snowden) died in Burnley, Lancashire.  She is the wife of my 1st cousin 3x removed.