Month: January 2012

Wedding Wednesday – Who’s that girl?

This is a photograph from my own collection.  I have to admit up front that I don’t know the happy couple.  Well, what I mean is that I know who the groom is but I never met either him or the bride (as far as I know) and I am not related to them.

The photograph is in one of those little fold over covers that you get from photographers.  There is a description on the cover written by my dad – it says

‘Harold Crossland’s wedding.  Dad’s best friend from Rotherham’

The ‘dad’ referred to in the description is my granddad – Joseph Dawson.  He is the chap second from the left – I am guessing that he was ‘best man’.

So I did a search on Find My Past and came up with a couple of possibilities.

There is a marriage in the December quarter of 1943 between Harold Crossland and Marian Jenkinson  in the Rother Valley registration district.

There is also a marriage in the June quarter of 1947 between Harold Crossland and Marian Smith in the Sheffield registration district.

For those who don’t know the area Rotherham and Sheffield are not a million miles apart.  I know that my grandparents lived in Brinsworth (part of Rotherham) for a while and I guess that this is where Joseph made friends with Harold.

Of course the wedding could have been held somewhere else completely and I am way off the mark.

My granddad was born in 1903, so, if I am right then he would be either 40 or 44 when these photographs were taken.  I am really bad at trying to estimate ages – what do you think?

Are there any clues from the style of clothes?

Leave a comment if you think you can help.


The street where they lived – Foredale Cottages, Horton in Ribblesdale

This is the second in my new series ‘the street where they lived’ and I am staying with the story of my nannie, Florrie Musgrove

Florrie was born on 6 January 1897 and she lived at Foredale Cottages, just outside the Yorkshire Dales village of Horton in Ribblesdale.

These quarry workers’ cottages at Foredale are a prominent feature of the landscape in this part of Ribblesdale.  The quarry the occupants worked produced limestone for the nearby lime burning industry.  The quarry was opened in 1878 and sold in 1882 to a newly formed company called the Ribblesdale Lime and Flag Quarry Co Ltd.  There was no mention of the cottages at this time but they do appear on the 1909 OS map for the area. It is likely that they were built in the 1890s and were originally a shorter row, extended at a later date.

Foredale Cottages and Quarry

I can’t be sure which of the cottages Florrie and her family occupied.  However I do have other members of the Musgrove family living in the cottages in 1891.  Two of Florries uncles, Harrison Musgrove and George Albert Musgrove together with their families are recorded there in the census.

In 1901 my 2x great grandfather, Thomas Turner (Florries grandfather) is living at No.2 and one of his daughters Ellen and her husband Robert William Thistlethwaite are living at No.9 with their two sons.

So my family have a connection with Foredale Cottages and the limestone quarry for at least ten years or more at the end of the 19th century and early 20th century.

In the 21st century you will need to pay in excess of £135,000 to buy No. 2 Foredale Cottages.  And numbers 5 and 6 have been knocked through to create one 5 five bedroom property – this is currently for sale here at £215,000 – if my lottery numbers come up I might even be tempted.

Military Monday – Hugh Buckley

Hugh Buckley is my 2nd cousin 2x removed.  Our common ancestors are my 3x great grandparents Thomas Buckley and Henrietta Mason.

Hugh was born in Keighley, West Yorkshire about 1888 to parents Smith Buckley and Margaret Day.

I have been fortunate to find his WW1 Pension Records on

Hugh enlisted in the Corps. of Royal Engineers and his attestation was given in Burnley on 30 October 1913.  His age is given as 25 years 146 days and his occupation is a ‘fitter’ at a foundry.

He had a medical examination in Burnley, Lancashire on 27 October 1913.  His height is given as 5 feet 7 inches and his weight was 130lbs.  Hugh’s religious denomination is shown as Roman Catholic.

Hugh’s military service was very short.  He was discharged on 27 January 1914 after serving only 90 days.

His discharge was under Kings Regulation 392 (v).  This regulation allows someone to claim their discharge upon a payment £10 within three months of their attestation.

Of course I can never know the reasons for this sequence of events.  However I offer a possible scenario.

Hugh’s father, Smith Buckley, died in July 1913 – he was buried at Utley Cemetery, Keighley, on 9 July.  Just over three months later Hugh joins the army.  Less than three months afterwards he buys his discharge.

Hugh was the youngest of at least seven children.  I wonder if joining the army was a rash decision after the death of his father and then seen as a mistake.  Perhaps he was needed at home to take of his widowed mother.

Whatever the reasons I imagine this must have been a difficult time for the family.

Sunday Snap – Street Party

Given that this year we might see some street parties to celebrate the Queens Diamond Jubilee I thought I post a photograph from my own collection.

I have no idea what the celebration is – perhaps the Coronation in 1953; perhaps VE Day, although I think it looks later than that; or perhaps it was some local celebration.

Whatever the occasion I hope that they had a good day.  Certainly some of the people in the photograph seem happy to be there but others do look a bit miserable.

I have tried to examine it closely to see if I recognise anyone.  And to be honest I’m not sure.  There is a lady on there with a look of my grandmother – think I need to ask my mum if she knows anything at all about the picture.

If anyone has any suggestions about the period or event please leave a comment.

Surname Saturday – Brockbank

I have eleven people with the surname Brockbank in my family tree.  The connection begins with  the marriage of my 2x great grand aunt, Ellen Carradice, to Robert Brockbank on Christmas Eve 1864 in Kendal, Westmorland.

According to surnamedb Brockbank is a medieval name of English origin with two possible meanings.

The first suggestion is that it is a dialectal variant of ‘Brocklebank’ which itself is a locational name from a place near Wigton in Cumbria.  The derivation is said to be from the Middle English ‘brock’ meaning a badger and the Northern Middle English ‘bank’, meaning bank or slope.  It is apparently descriptive of a bank that was a favouite haunt of badgers.

The second suggestion is that Brockbank may be a topographical name for a dweller by the bank of a brook – ‘brock’ being a variant of brook from the Old English pre 7th Century ‘broc’ meaning a brook or water meadow.

OK – did you follow that?

The first recorded spelling of the family name is said to be that of Thomas Brokesbank dated 1379 on the Poll Tax records of Yorkshire.

A surname search of the 1911 census produces a list of 1334 people, predominantly from Lancashire, Westmorland and Cumberland.

Here’s a couple of links to famous ‘Brockbank’s’

Russell Brockbank – cartoonist

William Brockbank M.D. – The Scouting Doctor

The street where they lived – Whalley Road, Clitheroe

This is an updated post with revised information. I had previously thought that 102 Whalley Road was originally known as 26 Russell Street. However new information has come to light confirming that it was actually 28 Russell Street. So the information about the census returns has been corrected.

This is a photograph of 102 Whalley Road, Clitheroe, Lancashire.  It was the home of my granddad and nannie – Fred and Florrie Musgrove.  Although they lived in other houses in Clitheroe this is the only one I ever knew.

I don’t know if the photograph gives an accurate impression of size.  There are four floors – a cellar with two rooms and a door leading to the back garden; ground floor with a front parlour, living room and kitchen; first floor with two bedrooms; and second floor with a further two bedrooms.

The house always seemed to have a warm and cozy feel.  I remember my granddad sitting in his armchair next to the coal fire.  My mother recalls the front bedroom on the first floor also having a fireplace and coal fire but doesn’t think any of the other bedrooms had fireplaces.

Whenever I think of Fred and Florrie I remember them at 102 Whalley Road.  However the original address was 28 Russell Street – the name changed sometime in the 1930’s.

The house was built probably early 19th century.  The block of numbers from 90-110 are now Grade II listed buildings – they were listed in September 1976.  The listing text on the British Listed Buildings website comments briefly on number 102 – the doorway to No. 102 has plain pilasters, cornice and entablature.

Looking back at the census returns I can see who lived at 28 Russell Street:-

• 1911 – William Marsden (56), a carter in cotton mill. Also his wife Elizabeth (58), two daughters Martha Jane (28) and Alice Ann (23, both cotton weavers. There was also a boarder, Thomas Whittaker (67), a retired cotton loom overlooker.

• 1901 – Ellen Walbank (57), a widow and four children – Winfred (32), Henry (24), Walter (18) and Eliza (15). Also living there was Ethel M Houghton (3), niece.

• 1891 – Robert Woodworth (58) a cotton weaver, his wife Margaret (55) from Ireland and six children – Alice (36), Helen (28), Isabella (26), Elizabeth (17), Louisa (1877) and Mary A (12).

• 1881 – James Whittaker (59), an unemployed mill labourer, his wife Mary (60) and three daughters working as cotton weavers – Elizabeth (28), Susannah (21)and Lucy A (18).

• 1871 – James Whittaker (49), a labourer, his wife Mary (50) and seven daughters – Martha (20), Elizabeth (18), Margaret (16), Emma Jane (14), Susannah (13), Lucy Anne (10) and Mary Ann Roberts (26). Also a grandson, James Wilson Roberts (1).

• 1861 – Richard Douglass (34), a power loom cotton weaver, his wife Margaret (30) and four children – Sarah Alice (11), Mary Ann (9), William (7) and Joseph (2). Also there are Hannah Douglas (80), mother and widow, plus Mary Cottam (41) sister-in-law.

These houses are now probably close on 200 years old and will no doubt be standing for many more years.

The street where they lived

I am starting what I hope will become a regular blog theme – The Street Where They Lived.  I have collected loads of information from census returns about the places where my ancestors lived.  Sometimes I have the house number and street name and sometimes just the street name.  Often in rural locations there is just the name of the hamlet or village.

I have a few old photographs in my own personal collection which I can post.  And by using Street View I can see images of the locations as they are today.  I will try to do some research about the street, hamlet or area and include this. in the post.

Look out for the first post coming soon.  I hope you will enjoy reading this new theme and thanks for your continuing support.